We started our discussion on Ethnic cleansing with the intent of identifying the reasons for this evil, the eventual causes, as well as the effect that it has had on humanity. Our reference point is Yugoslavia and the Balkan region.
In this discussion, share your thoughts about ethnic cleansing. Are the perpetrators justified in their actions? How is this wrong from a spiritual standpoint? How can the United Nations improve its efforts in supporting Multiculturalism and the widespread acceptance of diverse groups in our society?
Address each question in your discussion with supporting information.
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Reading Resource: http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/soc/faculty/mann/ETHNIC.pdf
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People who participate in ethnic cleansing are not justified because no race is better than the other or un pure. From a spiritual standpoint God created us with love in our heart and we should not hate another group of people because they do not relate to us instead we should love accept and forgive. The UN can improve its efforts in supporting multiculturalism by having campaigns to incorporate it into the schools and teach children to accept one another besides their race ethnicity or background.
Yes Alexis I agree totally. We see eye to eye on this subject matter. The UN should really consider implimenting this campaign / program so people can immerse themselves in other cultures.
I agree although its harder for people to really understand foreign culture rather than accepting and respecting it.
I strong agree Alexis, it makes me said that these young kids are being taught the opposite of Gods laws
Ethnic cleansing isn't just in any way, to kill innocent people for being essentially who they are is absolutely evil and there isn't any excuse for it , ever. From a spiritual point of view, this is wrong because God never intended for us to discriminate against people who don't have the same values as us , let alone kill them or anyone period. The United Nations can improve its efforts in supporting multiculturalism by initiating programs for each country to better understand each ethnicity so that people can explore other cultures and help reduce all the hatred.
Dasha i tottally agree with you. I agree that there is absolutely no excuse for ethnic cleansing!
*totally... Sorry for the spelling error! :)
I agree Dasha Rayne Caines, because God does not want us to kill others but love others no matter what race or ethnicity.
Yes Dasha. I agree with you. Good point on what the U.N should do about multiculturalism. Hopefully this will happen in the future.
Ethnic cleansing is similar to forced deportation or 'population transfer'. The idea in ethnic cleansing is "to get people to move, and the means used to this end range from the legal to the semi-legal." But any civilized person can see that ethnic cleansing is bad! Ethnic cleansing” is defined as a policy of eliminating unwanted ethnic or religious groups by deportation, forcible displacement, mass murder or by threats of such acts, with the intent of creating a territory inhabited by people of a homogeneous or pure ethnicity, religion, culture and history.
I think the U.N cant do anything to solve this problem, because if they could have I feel like the problem would have been solved by now. But they can at least try. They can help by teaching students in school early about culture diversity and about acceptance.
Matthew 5:21 says “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder; and whoever murders will be liable to judgment.’
Great Point Ashe.
It's not that the UN can't do anything about it Ashé. Of course they could implement laws or regulations with a means of punishment for such harmful acts of genocide. Which they have. I don't know all the rules for all states, but I'm pretty sure, they all atlas have the most basic rule, that you should not commit any act of murder because it is a crime, and you will serve a penalty. The UN has tried other methods such as looking for early warning signs which doesn't seem like much but it is a method.
Thats a great point ashe
I believe that ethnic cleasing is wrong but majority of the perpetrators believe they have the moral right to eliminate inferior peoples although it may be radical to the rest of the world. Yes, it may be wrong from a spiritual standpoint but they think that their actions are justified and instead of standing around and calling out their flaws we should help them to understand that although believe that they have the right to kill people also have the right to live, and UN needs to involve themselves more because helping victims after the fact isnt good enough, they should be stading up to the front and preventing it from happening in the first place.
While I see where you are coming from, I don't feel you answered the question posed on whether you feel the perpretaors are justified. You simply stated that they feel justified themselves but you didn't say your won opinopn.
The people that participate in ethnic cleansing are not justified in their actions. This is wrong in a spiritual standpoint because its wrong to judge. You should not judge people on things that you don't understand or that are different from you. The United Nations can improve their efforts by grouping with others that believe the same as them.
I believe that ethnic cleansing is wrong. People shouldn't kill other ethnic groups just because of their differences. I think that the perpetrators are not justified due to the fack there will always be an ethnic groups that does not agree with wat you believe in. The United Nations can help ethnic cleansing by creating a law that prevokes this from happening
i agree with the point that ethnic cleansing is wrong but if made as a law, us as people still break laws and most people are still willing to accept the punishment from enforced law.
Ethnic cleansing is
the mass expulsion or killing of members of an unwanted ethnic or religious group in a society. i believe that ehhnic cleansing is wrong for spiritual standpoints because they are killing christians.
Supporters of Ethnic cleansing are justified in there actions if the ethnicity is becoming a threat to the safety of that country and its people. The united nations should step in only when the country is not justified in their action and allow super power nations to take action when things get out of hand.
While I do agree that there should be interference when countries get out of hand, I don't agree with the point made about peetraots being justified. I believe that killing is wrong no matter what another country is doing.
From my opinion, I think that ethnic cleansing is evil. I dont think that mass killing a certain group of people because you dont agree/believe the same things as them is a good way to solve things or create peace. I also think there are negtive effects: killing people (most def ;)) and wars that might start after ethnic cleansing is done. The example, Yugoslavia, (war in Bosnia and Herzegovina) ,had a widespread ethnic cleansing of Bosnian Muslims and Bosnian Croats. I think ethnic cleansing is inhumane and cruel because innocent people are getting killed or have to force flee their country just because they are different or unliked. From a spiritual standpoint ethnic cleansing is wrong because God told us we should not kill (in the 10 commandments), and even though God did a lot of ethnic cleansing in the bible it does not justify or give people the right to kill people. The United Nations can make it a law that there should be no mass killings.They can also make sure everyone has acceptance, appreciation, and no discrimination of how people choose to live their lives.
In my opinion, ethnic cleansing is wrong. The perpetrators are not justified no matter what their motives are. Murdereing a group of people just because of their ethnicity or race is wrong both morally and spiritually. God himself commanded that we not kill. It says so in the 10 commandments. The United Nations can initiate programs to allow different cultures and ethnicities to integrate and experience each other's cultures so they can embrace them and learn about them. This will allow them to embrace other people's and accept them for who they are.
After the Biblical flood I believe there is no need for ethnic cleansing, Gods purpose for wiping out entire ethnicities/religions/Group of people was because they were polluting the world with sin and had no chance of savior because they were in total separation from Christ.
After the flood I believe there is no justification for ethnic Cleansing whatsoever and it’s all for wealth, power, and land. If it was because that Group of people were murderers, thieves, rapist like the rebels in Africa I could look there other way and not feel a thing because they are taking young children and making them join there “cause” and force them to murder their families, these are the type of people who I wouldn’t really mind this happening to.
I don’t believe the U.N can do anything to stop it because one won’t stop until the other is gone.
I believe that only the two ethnicities can come to an agreement/treaty of some sort and allow each other to live in peace all the U.N can do is offer a safe place to sign the treaty. I feel sometimes the U.N can actually make a situation more difficult than it needs to be by intervening although they’re trying to help it’s better to let water evaporate from a pot than try to burn yourself trying to scoop it out.
I agree with your thoughts about how the two groups that are at odds should work out their own issues rather than expect the help of an outside group. Whether or not this makes things easier, I don't know, but at least it doesn't create any other problems to add to the mix.
I agree that if the minorities stick together than they can rise up against the other ethnicity that is trying to cleanse of the minorities and defeat them. We should defeat them with peace and not violence as violence is not in Gods will.
i don't think this would work because if two groups have differences between each other, I doubt that they would come to an agreement and change the way their ethnic groups operates
I agree that God did the right thing about the flood. Even though there are still sins in this world, God won't give up on us and we won't give up on Him. He will protect us through tough times
Yes it is try that the flood cleanse the earth but things can become unclean again the are cleansed. I'm not saying that ethnic cleansing can be justified but the reason it can't be justified is not because of the flood. God commanded for the Israelites to kill the philistines so they can have the promise land for themselves. If God commanded ethnic cleansing after the flood then there was a time it could be justified.
I agree Ali.
I agree 99% with your comment about not needing a ethnic cleansing 😀
Dahji after the flood there was ethnic cleansing. After the flood is when it all began. That is when Jesus told different groups like the Israelites to go and kill entire villages/groups of people. But with everything else you said I agree with you.
After the flood, that's when most of the ethnic cleansing started happening. I'm pretty sure as soon as Noah began populating the earth again, we became more culturally diverse, there fore believing that one ethnicity or race was better than another one.
Have you not read the bible? Do you think "ethnic cleansing" stopped after the flood? No. It probably all began from there. Not saying mass killing is right, but if you actually read your bible you would see that God did alot of mass killings after the flood, but its God so you know...he did it out of love.. i guess.. :) #everythinghappensforareason kbye.
Talking about ethnic cleansing definitely reminds me of a time, about 200 years or so ago, when whites literally forced many different ethnicities of African people out of their homeland and forced them into free cruel labor and sexual exploitation. After these whites were "done" with their free labor (technically they weren't done...the Africans were just getting way to overworked for them), the free laborers were hung to show the world, "If you're not like us we use you, abuse you, and lose you. No harm, no foul." In a way, this is a huge example of how a certain group of people will not agree with you all the time, and if they don't, they WILL kill you, no if's, and's or but's. Ethnic cleansing to me, in a way, is highly selfish and disrespectful. If you believe God put you on this beautiful planet because you were better than say...the Buddhists or Muslims or something, you need to re-evaluate. I totally agree for dying for your belief, yet it's totally not cool to murder someone because you believe what they believe is invalid. Justification is only valid when the people implementing these actions are putting their wrongdoing onto you, and you can't handle being "nice" to them anymore.
From a spiritual view, the 10 commandments states "Thou shall not kill" which is extremely valid.
And as for the U.N.'s involvement, I think that if the problem could be solved, it would have been solved years ago...
I agree with your opinion on ethnic cleansing, Zakayle. No one should consider that they are better than anyone else, but unfortunately, that's the way it is. Though, I'm not sure I understand your reasons for justification. Isn't it our jobs as Christians simply say that murder is a sin and it disregards the precious gift God has given us? I don't know. Perhaps I haven't completely understood your standpoint.
Good points Z.S. How do you think countries like Bosnia and Serbia can resolve ethnic tensions that still exist in the region today? Do you think Westernization, Democracy or Multiculturalism is the answer?
It IS a sign of disrespect! How can anyone feel a power over someones life when they are also merely a human soul?
I strongly agree that it is dis respect. When I see ethnic cleansing today I think of slavery in America. This was bought about because of white supremacy. We still see white supremacy today in pop culture where White people take other races culture and make it popular, but if the minorities would stick together this would not be as prevalent.
Sometimes people just don't see any other perspective other than they're own. And some people just don't have a heart. All they care about is themselves and when u have that type of mantality nothing can change their minds.
I strongly agree with your comments on how ethnic cleansing has been present in forms such as slavery. and how it is an injustice that is selfish and goes against the bible. But I disagree with the fact that it is a situation that can't be solved by the UN because frankly I believe it can. If they sat down and really debated ways to bring an end to cringes such as ethnic cleansing some way or some how they will find a solution. Whether that solution includes bringing in help from other countries or solving it themselves.
I agree Zakayle. The bible says "thou shall not kill". So as a Christian I feel like anyone who goes against that commandment is wrong.
Well I agree but God seems to feel that ethnic cleansing can be justified so I suppose that it can be a good thing and a bad thing.
On the topic of ethnic cleansing, it should be universally accepted that NO ONE has the right to decide whether or not someone is worthy of life. We are humans and none of us are meant to play God. End of story. This ideal should be consistent no matter what standpoint you look at it from. Murder cannot be justified. So when the Bible says that "Thou shalt not kill", it is the word and the law of God. Therefore, we as Christians/His Creations need to follow suit. As for a solution to this unfortunate issue, all I can say is that you can't change human nature. Some one will always think they are superior to another. If there were a way to change this, it would have already been done and humanity would have already adopted a utopian society. But we haven't. It's the sad truth.
Are you therefore suggesting that ethnic cleansing should be socially accepted as an inevitable outcome to ethnic differences?
Yes, there will always be that few...The world isn't perfect but those who profess to be christians definetly should not practice ethnic cleansing.
I fully agree with Sierra. She clearly stated what man can and cannot do. Man might be able to judge people, but man can never be the true judge (God). In the end God will determine your fate.
I have to say you made a really strong point. When man has tried to play God no good has come out of it. They feel as if they are entitled to things that are far out of their reach and many have had to pay for their greed.
I agree 100% with you Sierra. Who are we to take someone's life and we didn't give it to them.
I strongly agree, no man shall judge on what another man believes only one being has the power to truly judge and that is God. Man only has opinion and in todays society, opinions don't matter.
I personally believe that ethnic cleansing is wrong because no characteristic of the majority can be true for an entire ethnic group. No one has the right to determine whether another deserves to exist or not. Genesis 9:6 says “Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed, for God made man in his own image." Life is in the hands of its creator. God is therefore the giver and the taker of life. To try that authority out for ourselves is to covet God. The United Nation's job is to ensure that the leaders of countries understand the value of human life. So that they understand that they have no right to take it.
I agree with Misheal. What she said is similar to what I said about the right to judge. No man should have the right to judge another. The right to judge should be left to God.
Exactly Sanchez! We are all made in the image of God so therefore if we are judging someone else and their beliefs we are really judging God. God hopes that we will take his path and believe in him. God should be the only one with the right to judge.
I fully agree with you it is not our place to decide another's fate because we are not perfect. The only person who has the right to judge us is God. And the UN can find a solution for this crime if they are willing to truly work together and support one another in times of need like in the Rewanda incident
I disagree but i also agree. I agree because with ethnic cleansing the world will be over populated causing us to create and cause more pollution. We would lose many resources because with so much more people it would be more of a need to use them. I also disagree because who are we to kill someone for no good reason? By a Christian standpoint I dont believe we should kill each other because the ten commandments says so. In Matthew 5:21 it says "you have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder; and whoever murders will be liable to judgment.’ To me whatever the Bible says you should go by it and that is what i believe.
I agree and understand what you are saying norman but, which one do you think would be best to do? Keep ethnic cleaning? Or stop it?
I disagree with where you said "I agree because with ethnic cleansing the world will be over populated causing us to create and cause more pollution." because how can the world be over populated if people are constantly killing others because of their ethnicity? Its just not right. So are you for or against ethnic cleansing??
I understand what your saying but Norman these are human beings! That's like someone coming to your door and telling you that's it's to much people in the world and we have come to take the lives of you and your family members! No there are other ways of dealing with high population
One of the best answers on the post. It answers adequately each question asked whether it be the spiritual or political.
YAAASS MISH :) I do agree that life is in the hands of the creator. God can kill whoever he wants, and keep alive whoever he wants. :) But we should not take the authority upon ourselves to kill people. If you believe something is wrong/different...let God take care of it.
My stand point on ethnic cleansing is that it's another horrible act committed by the human race. And like many others it is an act brought up because of fear of something different than what we're used to. In a spiritual stand point it. Directly goes against two of the Ten Commandments 1) thou shalt not kill and 2) and thou shalt love thy neighbor. Besides if their really was a reason why a certain group of people should be brought to a spiritual justice it is not our place to this it is Gods he is the only one who is perfect. So he is the only one that can judge us. I believe the unite nations could improve multiculturism by spreading better information about different cultures in schools. And having a better sense of connection with other countries. Also not being so quick to allow wars to come into place and first try to have a civilized discussion with the other country with their soul goal to be making peace.
I agree with James. Schools should educate students on the different ethnicity and races. This will help prevent people to do and say ignorant statements.
Yes Lacey !!! Strongly agree with this statement student should be educated the different ethnicity & races.
I agree James but it is up to the students to accept and act upon what they have been taught. They can't force them to accept it, the students have to choose accept it.
James it is up to the students to choose on wheather or not to accept it an act upon it.
Minus the spelling errors, I also don't understand what you mean when you say ' also not being so quick to allow wars to come into place' There is no time period for a war to start. Considering people have been saying for years, that soon there will be a WWIII, for years, and it has not yet happened. So I don't understand how wars come ' quickly ' but ok.
I agree with all your other points though. Seems to make sense.
Amen James! Excellent point about spreading better information to the young ones. They will pick up on the wrongs doing and the killings will get worse by young children participating in the act.
I personally believe that there is no need for ethnic cleansing. Nobody should have the right or authority to judge someone based on what they believe in or where they come from. In the bible it says thou shall not kill. Only God can truly judge man. The United Nations can implement multiculturalism into education systems. This way people can be able to accept it from an early age.
I agree ethnic cleansing is an immoral act that should not be aloud to occur. And I didn't even consider your point on how the UN could teach tolerance and exceptence in schools but it is absolutely true.
Solid comment Sanchez, I agree with the part in which you explain why ethnic cleansing is bad but I don't fully understand how multiculturalism can be implemented into educational systems.
Good point Sanchez but why should the students listen to the United Nations if they believe in ethnic cleansing.
Also no one can't stop what is taught in the homes of these children
I agree! There is no need for ethnic cleansing. We are free to worship whom ever we desire and should be respected when doing this.
I agree with you Sanchez people should be accepted the way they are and at the end God has the last say.
The perpetrators are not justified because it is not right to kill people because they feel superior to another ethnicity. God has stated in His law that people shouldn't kill and people should love their neighbors. Ethnic cleansing goes against God's commandments, and therefore is not right. The United Nations can make national holidays for different ethnicities, to help people feel accepted and also to spread culture.
I agree Lacey it does go against Gods law and no it isn't right to kill people.
I strongly agree with you Lacey due to the fact that God did not put us to take other people lives.
I agree Lace, i wish it's some way that they can believe in Gods laws.
I believe i am on both sides of this. I say this because if the ethnic cleansing was not there then it will be much more people on this earth from Many different ethnice groups and i think that that might trigger wars. There would also be over population and many others but other than that i think ethnic cleansing is a bad thing because we as humans do not have the power, as misheal said, to determine whether you deserve life or death because of what you believe. Life is in the hands of the Creator. In Exodus 23:7 it reads "Keep far from a false charge, and do not kill the innocent and righteous, for I will not acquit the wicked" , therfore i believe it is wromg to kill others but still think it will lead to alot of other bad things if it stops.
I understand what your saying Zane but what it an atheist group was going to start ethnic cleansing? They wouldnt care about your religious opinion.
But if an atheist group started an ethnic cleansing, who would they be killing?
I think that ethnic cleansing is a bad beacuse God is the only person that should be able to take someones life. It can also be good because it may get rid of people that think their religion is the right religion and would kill people for their beliefs. They think that they are right and that everyone should be associated with their religion. The United Nation can do many things to effectively promote multiculturalism but I think that it is up to the people if they actually want to accept and participate in these practices.
Mr. Lee. I would have to say i disagree. I dont see how killing innocent people could be good...
Killing is a sin, but you still believe that killing people with other religions is right?
Like many who have said before, ethnic cleansing is an immoral and indecorous act of violence and prejudice, an act that has no place in modern society. From a biblical stand point, judgement of another person and killing of another person are both sins and goes against God's commandments. The affect that ethnic cleansing can have on the world is usually negative, we could see this through our history with maybe one of the worst modern day ethnic cleansing, the holocaust. The question then is, how do we stop something this bad from occurring again? Many internationals organizations such as UNESCO and The United Nations have been implementing plans ever since the early 90's to strengthen the acceptance of multicultralism, as they fight the global fight against discrimination.In 2005 they put in place a series of commands that would assist Muslims who were physically and mental abused after the September 11 attacks in Newyork city. However they're efforts are still ongoing and they have stuck to their global fight against discrimination of minorities and other religious groups.
Great point Tre, but in the Bible it says that at the end times there will be rumors of wars and wars. It is something that needs to be fullfiled so there is no way that wars and attacks will en.
Yes Norman, it unfortunately is a sad reality. Wars have, and will forever remain apart of human existence. As intelligent as God has made us we've often failed to solve our problems without aggression towards each other. However, hatred towards another group of people is a trait that has been learned over many years, and if one can learn to hate, then he can be taught to love for in the words of Nelson Mandela "love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite." Ethnic hatred and cleansing is something that is hard to erase from this world, for people will always have contrasting opinions about what is right and what is wrong. This doesn't mean however, that fixing such a problem is impossible. Over time humans will learn from their mistakes and things will improve. This improvement will be small on the scale of problems that the world will face in the future, but despite this it would be one less thing to worry about. Wars are only and will continue to be a disease of the rich man, a profit, a quick fix to a complicated problem. Wars don't always revolve around hatred of another group of people but could be more political or land space instigated. The problem we are trying to fix here, is erasing ethnic cleansing from the picture, so when God does return we can stand together in the end the same way we begun, together.
That is a great point tre
Ethnic cleansing the mass expulsion or killing of members of an unwanted ethnic or religious group in a society. It also is usually accompanied with the efforts to remove physical and cultural evidence of the targeted group in the territory through the destruction of homes etc. I personally think ethnic cleansing is wrong because God made all of us in the image of him nobody has the right to take someone's life away from them. God decides when it's time for us to come & go. People need to learn how too respect people and their wishes in the world. People will not always agree with your opinion or the decision that they make. People need to get over the fact they are the same skin color, from the same country, speak a different language etc because we are all children of God & God love each and every one of us. However it's know reason for people to go around killing each other because they don't believe in the same values they believe or agree on the same beliefs. If they wanted to solve these conflicts they would have been solved ages ago.
I'm with you on the immorality and the global effect of ethnic cleansing but I thought that the goal was to state what we think the UN should do , not what has already been implimented.
Im guessing this comment is directed towards me considering it has little relevance to Honor's comment and is more associated with mine. Yes you're correct Dasha, I didn't answer the question head on. I reviewed the forum, and realised that ideas were being regurgitated and instead of following suit I offered a different direction. I did a little research and came upon the facts that the U.N along with UNESCO already have multiple plans in place to address and continue to improve on the spreading of multiculturalism around the world. My comment was intended to be more of a reference to future answers rather than a regular answer like the other people on here including yourself.
During the 20th century the rise of extreme nationalist movements led to an unprecedented level of ethnically motivated brutality. For example the Turkish massacre of Armenians during World War 1. The Nazi Holocaust's annihilation of some six million European Jews and the forced displacement and mass killings carried out in the former Yugoslavia and the African country of Rwanda during the 1990s. I believe that ethnic cleansing is wrong because people can't be of a certain ethnic group and be proud. They are basically being persecuted for their ethnicity which is something they don't have control of. The perpetrators are not justified of their actions because there is no reason that people should be torturing, raping, and killing others because of their ethnicity. From a spiritual point of view, God made us all in his image and we shouldn't be defiled because of our ethnicity. God made us all different shapes and sizes and we should be proud.
The UN needs to prevent armed conflict, which usually provides the context for ethnic cleansing. Protects civilians in armed conflict, End impunity through judicial action in national and international courts. Promote multiculturalism events of different, unaccepted ethnic groups to support multiculturalism.
But with so much wars happening now why do you think the wars are caused by what people look like? Many of these wars are caused by religion purposes.
Ethnic cleansing to me is just altogether inhumane. I can't imagine the type of heart someone has to have to kill a person yet try to take out a large amount of people. Its frightening to know that there are people who can do things like that and be able to live with themselves. On a spiritual aspect, if you don't like someone and how they live their life it doesn't mean you have that right to take their life even if they are doing something wrong. By you killing them, that doesn't make you any better than them it's still a sin and In God's eyes all sins have the same value. We as sinners don't have the authority to point out who and who shouldn't be able to live. I personally don't think the UN will be able to improve their efforts in supporting Multiculturalism and the widespread acceptance of diverse groups in our society. These cruel people are filled with sin and are set on a mission. Their souls are possessed and no one who is trying to make peace will be able to reach them. It would have to take a massive miracle to make peace. But it's only going to get worse for this is one of the many signs of Jesus second coming!
My thoughts on ethnic cleansing is that it is wrong and inhumane. Usually when ethnic cleansing occurs, it is because one group of people believe their thoughts or opinions are more superior than everyone else's. This can be for religious reasons or democratic reasons. For example regarding Serbia vs. Albania, the Serbs killed many Albanians not only because or religion but also because they felt the land was "their right" to own. Majority of the time people doing the crime, I think, feel as if their actions have justification but really there isn't one group of people superior to another. And from a religious standpoint justified means to make right in the sight of God. So I don't see how God finds any enjoyment when people profess to be killing people in his name. Killing is a son and I don't even have to mention that it's one of the ten commandments. The bible has many accounts of ethnic cleanings for example the Egyptians vs. the Hebrews. Matthew 24:37 says that as it was in the days of Noah so it will be at the coming of the son of man. This is talking about the biggest religious ethnic cleansing of them all. And this is why I don't think there is anything the U.N. can do to improve its effort in supporting multiculturalism because the Bible says it is only going to get worse.
Yes, Michaela....it is wrong for there to be ethnic cleansing, but God used it in a way to get rid of sin. It is wrong for people to be killing other people in God's name because that is blasphemy, and I agree God wouldn't have any pleasure in that. Matthew 24:37 is a great source about how the world's issues won't get any better, so therefore the UN is not in charge of how the world's actions will bring peace, because in the end, the only peace there will be is in the New Jerusalem.
Ethnic cleansing is a killing of a whole ethnic group. The ethnic cleansing back in the bible were justified by God. Actually God ordered Saul to kill the army and and everyone in the tribes that he defeated. This was because the people were sinful and not of God. Now days I do not believe the perpetrators are justified because there is no good reason why the ethnic cleansing is taking place. In some cases ethnic cleansing can be supported by the bible just like the example I stated about Saul and the flood was a cleansing of the whole world.if the United Nations takes a stand when wrong this occur between cultures and make multiculturalism be an attractive and good thing to do they can improve multiculturalism.
I agree with most of your points. But maybe the perpetrators are justified. Imagine if ISIS killed someone close to you. You would feel that every last member deserved death. Just think of this as we say that ethnic cleansing is not justified.
I agree with somethings you are saying AS4 but like keeme said some people do things in retaliation and just because we think its stupid they probably have a great reason. All i am saying is look at it from both standpoints.
I think ethnic cleansing is simply wrong and it is an act of disrespect toward human life. Anyone who supports or participates in such an act is guilty of mass murder and has the blood of thousands of innocent lives on their hands. When God made man He never ment for us to be killers. However things didn't go the way were supposed to and we had to kill but not without reason. We had to kill to survive and not because of a difference of opinion. And I think the UN should hold cultural exchanges between countries to promote multiculturalism.
I agree with everything that you are saying Jaedyn except about the UN. I think if the UN did your idea I can see something happening and arguments taking place.
That is right God is the creator of wonderful things and as humans we were a beautiful thing but then sin came in. We as people have turned against our own kind and it is sickening how we think that by making the world better we need to kill those that don't look like people we associate with..
I believe that ethic cleansing is against all morals and all real religious systems.
Ethnic cleansing is the mass killing of people of an unwanted ethnic or religious group. No I don't believe that they are justified for their actions. Even though the Bible does support ethnic cleansing it shouldn't be used to justify what they do. I believe that everyone should be able to have religious freedom no matter what. Honestly the UN would not be able to solve the situation because as Michaela said the world is only going to get worse.
I don't think the Bible really supports ethnic cleansing to that extent, it was just for the people who were not of God.
I feel that ethnic cleansing is unjust because innocent people who are dying have no right to die just because of their ethnicity. God made everyone equally so a person has no right to take the life of another person. Ethnic cleansing only has a negative impact on the world although it decreases the population of the Earth with the mass killing that takes place. It doesn't only affect the area in which it is taking place it affects the whole world.
For God and the flood, I believe it is justified because there were sins in the world and God was mad. Also he offer to give them a second chance but that chance was destroyed when the people laughed off at Noah when he built the ark. Ethic cleansing is wrong from a spiritual standpoint because you can't kill people based on their religions. It sounds stupid. The United Nations should improve their efforts multiculturalism by gathering different nations for a meeting and discuss things. They need to agree on things that could be discussed. They shouldn't leave the room until they reach an agreement.
very good points Sam. I agree especially about the flood.
I believe that as Christians it is our job to present ourselves as full servants to God's work here on earth. Anything aside from his plan is going against him. In biblical times God commanded for his people to get rid of the philistine because they were in their land. So God somewhat supported ethnic cleansing. On the other hand God no longer wants anyone to kill anyone. He hasn't asked us to do anything. The killing that is going on is not God's plan. Also the mantality that someone is higher than another group is not biblical. God wants our love and it is cruel and dishonorable to kill for no reason.
When I read your comment it bought a verse to my mind. Treat others like you would want them to treat you. We should never do things to others we wouldn't want done onto ourselves.
I didn't think about it like that. Great point Aliana!
Yes i do agree because this Killing isn't right at all
i agree with you ali, becuase killing others just because what they do as a religion is not right
I agree with Sierra it is better to work out our differences rather than have a dispute about something that can easily be fixed with a decent conversation. Honestly it's childish but different people think differently. I also agree with Aliana it is a good idea to present ourselves in a christ like manner if we proclaim to be Christians.also same makes a good point also.
Ethnic cleasing is a strong matter that should not be supported and has a terrible out come if pursued. The perpetrators who take part in this are evil and crude for this action and are not justified. Ethnic cleasing is wrong because it goes against what Gods commandment which is "thou shall not kill". The United Nations can improve its effort in supporting multicultruralisn and the widespread acceptance of diverse groups in out society by having cultures come together for one day and have a celebration of having no racial tension and having widespread acceptance for other ethnic groups.
If we know that God himself is behind the killing then we know its right, if we don't its wrong.
In my opinion ethnic cleansing is wrong because God is the only one that can judge us & take a life. God all made us equal so its not right.
Saying ethnic cleansing is right is basically saying that killing babies just because they're born is right! The perpetrators' are not justified in their actions because it just causes unnecessary chaos and cause fear in our communities and it's against the law. How can one say that killing groups of people is right when the Bible tells us that murder is wrong and that we should all love one another? I believe the United Nations could help by having multicultural support groups helping them to interact and understand reasoning and have punish the ethnic cleansers.
Yes Tarita, I also agree because it's similar to saying that abortions are acceptable. If you ever saw a documentary, or even attended an abortion happening, your whole mindset would change. It's not fair that an unborn child, won't get to experience life like we do. He won't even know how it meant to be loved by people who actually cared about his well-being. This is why God doesn't like to allow suffering, and that's why one of the ten commandments say, "Thou shall not commit murder." - Exodus 20: 6
Ethnic cleansing is a means of removing people through deportation, displacement or even mass killing of people who belong to an ethnic group that is different from the ruling group in a country or region. Of course ethnic cleansing is wrong and I will explain why.
Perpetrators may not always be justified for their actions. Example A, Hitler was not punished for his mass murder of over 9 million people, but only because he committed suicide before his trial. Which brings me to my conclusion, those who are not justified on earth, are justified by God.
From a spiritual standpoint, ethnic cleansing is wrong, because it is not what God intended. God didn’t intend us to kill, which is why it is one of the ten commandments. Also, he doesn’t intend us to kill his creations. Every human race is important, or else it wouldn’t have been created.
The UN ’s method for prevention of more acts is “ early warning ”. I feel that monitoring is somewhat affective, but not completely affective. What I think is a good idea for supporting multiculturalism and the widespread acceptance of diverse groups in our society is implacing more humanitarians or peace keeping operations. I think the best thing that we all can do, is develop an image that every race is equal.
Annihilating a group of people based on the suspicion that they may cause severe problems is insane to such an extreme level that somebody would be willing to take someone else's life for ambiguous safety. There are always better ways to solve problems with others than by killing all of them. We have proven that today by the agreements, treaties etc. that countries and groups participate in on a regular basis. The past give us a reminder to never repeat evil, even if somebody says it will be controlled.
After Jesus died our mission was not to kill people because they didn't believe, like the Israelites did for ages, but our mission became entirely different, our new mission was to spread the word of God and if we kill just one man who doesn't believe we are ruining ones chance to be saved by the one who saved us. Like in Jonah's case, he did not desire for the gospel to be shared with his enemies, he wanted them all to be obliterated, which is an example of resentment. This is the perception of a person who supports ethnic cleansing, but in God's mind he does not want to kill people just because they do not believe in him, he wants them to know the truth, that they can be saved no matter how awful their past looks like. Therefore, ethnic cleansing, in no way can be justified.
I agree with you James, I feel your comment is the most accurate comment on this blog discussion. Keep it up!
Yeah Jamie I agree with you, your comment makes sense
James, please understand that our mission in the first place was never to kill anyone because of what we believe in. God doesn't run that way, the human race shouldn't run that way, so saying that that's not our mission now is totally invalid because we were never meant to be like that, we just ended up that way
Ethnic Cleansing is the mass expulsion or killing of members of an unwanted ethnic or religious group in a society. I personally believe that ethnic cleansing is cruel.It is complete man slaughter. although it was an activity ordered by god on a numerous amount of occasions in the bible i still strongly believe it is wrong. people get lives taking because they are not a certain color or religion or simply because they come from a different place or area . You should be able to be what you want to be without anyone killing you for it. people should have the freedom to choose, God gives us the freedom to choose between good or bad. man should not have the right to make are decisions for us, if we are capable of making them ourselves. at the end of the day God is merciful, and Ethnic cleansing is just not the answer. it can never solve problems, it can only make things worse.
I totally agree with Channa IT IS INHUMANE!! not only is it inhumane but you have committed a crime, it is murder and not just one but several either separately or at the same time. when i look at people like Isis I feel that they really need prayer I don't understand how they have the guts to kill a person. Taking someones life is a huge sin i mean you have broken one of the ten commandments, but we are not perfect. we have to learn from our mistakes.
I also have to agree with Mish, at the end of the day God should be the big Decision maker if someones life should be taken or not. he is the lord the giver of life. therefore if he gave it he should be able to take it. I am pretty sure he does not need people to do his job for him. I believe that no one who is just as equal as me or anyone else for that matter should have the authority and rights to take away a life whether they are innocent or not.
Ethnic cleansing is a tool that can be effectively used in today's society. I dont understand why people are trying to shy away from it.
There is Biblical proof of ethnic cleansing such as when God asked Saul to kill everyone and also the Flood. We can use this today to kill all the jihad terrorists that plague our society to day. The UN should seriously consider this as they are faced with attack after attack of these people. Death does not mean anything to these people. As a matter of fact, these radicals go into these attacks and demonstrations expecting death. Most of them want to die. They are promised paradise once they have completed their mission. So my underlying point is that we shouldnt feel sorry for these people and grimace at the thought of this once adopted style of order but we should consider the repercussions of not implementing ethnic cleansing.
Completely agree with you N'keeme ethnic cleansing is a good tactic to rid the world of problematic races
I disagree, we should not just go and exterminate peoples, we should look past differences and try to get past conflicts and establish relationships with different peoples that will help better ourselves.
No there is no excuse for killing someone just because they have faults you don't agree with. From a spiritual standpoint God loves everyone, we are to strive to be like him.
I agree, in no case or circumstance ever should someone go against God's laws of love for each other for selfish gain.
Ethnic cleansing is the killing of a group an a mass uprooting explosion. i think that this was a time in era were wars took place and as the act of this it was wrong.
Ethnic cleansing isn't right killing people just because they don't worship the same thing you worship. They may change later on in life, they might see that what their religion or culture is teaching is wrong and switch to a religion that makes sense.
I strongly agree Kirk because this killing isn't right
This catastrophe needs to stop now. The amount of people dieing is not necessary to help better the world.
Ethnic cleansing is nothing but wrong, from a spiritual stand point it breaks the commandments; though shall not kill and though shall not steal, because people are literally stealing peoples freedom by taking their lives.The UN needs to prevent armed conflict, which usually provides the context for ethnic cleansing. They can also create a celebration and or culture fair where all ethnic groups are together to share what they believe and why they believe.
Legitimation for the policies of “ethnic cleansing” which were to follow. The perpetrators were not perpetrating evil from this perspective, they were merely defending their people and asserting their rights. As the polarizing forces of the cold war faded away in the early 1990s, nationalism became the means by which unscrupulous politicians such as Slobodan Milosovic and Franjo Tudjman were able to remain in power.
the mass killing of members of a not needed ethnic or religious group in a society. I think this should not be approved due to the fact of enormous killing of people because this is a sin,and also it's included in the 10 commandments stating thou shall not kill.
Ethnic cleansing is either caused by one culture disliking another or one culture thinking that they are superior to another.At the same time, they prove, by killing or persecuting people of other ethnicity, that they aren't Superior
In this discussion, share your thoughts about ethnic cleansing. Are the perpetrators justified in their actions? How is this wrong from a spiritual standpoint? How can the United Nations improve its efforts in supporting Multiculturalism and the widespread acceptance of diverse groups in our society?
Ethnic cleansing - the mass expulsion or killing of members of an unwanted ethnic or religious group in a society.
It is a very evil and unrighteous thing. Forms of ethnic cleansing include general forced migration from a certain lands or mass murder of those who resist. The crimes committed during an ethnic cleansing are similar to those of genocide, but while genocide includes an intent at complete or partial destruction of the target group, ethnic cleansing may involve murder only to the point of mobilizing the target group out of the territory. To take the life of an individual is sinful alone but to eliminate a whole race is even more evil.
The perpetrators of these crimes should be guilty to the fullest extent of the law. They are evil and take the rights of these people away by treating them as lesser. You take their rights away by taking their property and taking their lives. The bible talks about God's acts of "ethnic cleansing' but even though we do not understand fully why he did these things, we cannot truly understand his will. God's acts are all just in one way or another. This gives us no right to go and take part in these acts though, God does not ordain us to go and do evils unto our fellow men.
The UN can better combat the evils of ethnic cleansing by preventing such ignorant minded themes to even reach the youth of the generation. If you make better efforts to take away boundaries and enforce the acculturation and spread of different way and beliefs you can help take away the stereotypes and ignorance in which different peoples have against others.
In the beginning God did destroy the world with a flood but the but it doesn't give us the right to kill someone because of their religion or race. I strongly believe that ethnic cleansing is wrong. Previously or recently in any part take in ethnic cleansing has not made the world any better so its basically pointless.
United Nations can do a lot to solve this problem but just choose not too..
Basically, I believe ethnic cleansing all started in the beginning of the human's history when our first parents, Adam and Eve, sinned in to Garden of Eden. Overtime as the world's sins became unbearable, and displeasing to God, this is when he got to the point that He had wished he never created men. When He saw that Noah and his family were the only one's, still counted as faithful in His eyes, He chose them to be saved in the ark, protected from the wrath of God's power causing the Earth to be flooded, to cleanse it from the sins of the former inhabitants. Yes, Noah's family wasn't perfect, but they were the only ones able to reproduce the population of Earth. Even though sin wasn't eliminated in the process, the minds of men back than, thought they were superior. That's how, later on we still have tribes from back then fighting with each other, today. They both want to get rid of the other ethnicity. But the end result won't solve anything, because the other opponent will always want to get their revenge. This is similar to how we have blacks and whites, fighting against each other. Both seem to be trying to get rid of the other race. Black people still hold onto the past, of what the whites did to our ancestors back in slavery. They degraded us so that, we would believe we weren't worth anything valuable.
you a good bible point Egypt but are you trying to say that it is the blacks fault why we are having these black on white fights? because you said," black people still hold onto the past."
I think ethic cleansing is cruel and injustice. I think that people should be able to worship and praise what ever religion they choose with out having any to be killed off. God didn't make humans to hate one alone but love each other and god loves us. The UN can help by having group activity's for all different races and religion, they can make it a law that there should be know kills because of the different ethnicity.
To me i personally believe that there is no need for ethnic cleansing. Nobody should have the right to judge someone based on what they believe in. In the bible it says thou shall not kill. So i personally think that it is bad thing
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